Plus, you can't throw them into msq roulette and have 1 minute trials mixed in with 40 minute cutscene fests. MSQ roulette isn't that surprising with only two options. Trial roulette is not nearly as rewarding as Leveling or even Level X0 roulette. this only changes if now in 5. They can rewatch the scenes. 6. Fisher Lv 90. You'd also get 20 tomes from Trial Roulette, assuming you get the level 90 trial each time. Also, Leveling Roulette, before Endwalker, would give more than that. Or, as a really fun change, make alliance roulette min ilvl only. MSQ roulette isn't even the best one in terms of time to exp, Frontline is which takes a 3rd of the time and sometimes queues faster too. MSQ roulette isn't actually very time-effective for the amount of exp you get vs the time spent in the duty. Leveling roulette + Trial Roulette daily, until you have the ilevel (and the dungeons unlocked) to run level 60 roulette and ex roulette (skip leveling at this point). People need to understand that they queued up for MSQ roulette you knew what you were getting into when you opened your duty finder. Almost 50% of a level. The only 3 roulettes that are worth it for EXP are Leveling, MSQ and Trial Roulette. It really is a lot easier than people think if you let MSQ stall for. This thread is archived. people don't want to hop on for some quick leveling and get stuck in (at least previously) the 1 hour+ dungeon that is the praetorium, so MSQ roulette exists with a higher EXP bonus so theres enough people running it for sprouts. I really got a pizza. level 2. Just because someone said stuff is "easy" on a factual easy MSQ doesn't mean I make fun of people who are new to the content, making them do unnecessary "must do this" just to clear it; It's what elitists like you do. If you want its challenge log bonuses, better to spam Under the Armor, it's also good for fast commendations bonus. Hunts, finding "clear runs/bonus runs" on PF, some daily roulettes. However, some dungeons must be unlocked via "blue quests". I don't give care if one has less cutscenes and is faster. The 40 astronomy tomes are from the roulette bonus; you also get 50 astronomy tomes per clear of a given level 90 dungeon, even if you aren't doing it in the roulette. For Final Fantasy XIV Online: A Realm Reborn on the PC, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "6. Roulette. The numbers aren't exact, but it was about 30% of a level for Castrum and 60% of a level for Praetorium when using the MSQ roulette, prior to EW. certainly a nice break of pace to do it after MSQ Roulette. Wrong. If you had a high enough system (or installed the game on SSD with large enough RAM), you'll usually ends the cutscene a few seconds earlier than others, especially if they plays from PS4. Black Mage Lv 90. I have a lvl 57 lancer (msq only through 2. If you get a dungeon close to or at your level (51, 53, or 55) your roulette bonus is going to be minimal because you get a lot of exp from the mobs and bosses in said dungeon. Fact is, CT is the lowest common denominator. People are using an expolit to be able to skip cutscenes in it, and then forcing sprouts to do the same, or yell at them for watching cutscenes. rafaelfy. 50/60/70 is barely worth anything. that one Full party duty). For the leveling roulette, the exp varies depending on the dungeons you get. Name. It isn't right, it's only going to get worse the more trials we get, but Square has shown no interest in doing anything about it. Then you would just be getting HW raids. Main Class. In a three. The MSQ quests give a lot of experience and will unlock more game content as you complete them. This is not ok! I was wondering what can we as a community do towards people like this that wants to force other people to use an exploit/bug in the system?I know I should do leveling and alliance raid for alt classes since they give a ton of xp. 2m exp reward from roulette, with 250k x2 from clearing mobs and boss, that works out to around 30% of the exp bar at that level. These quests were made for levels 60-70 and were released with Patch 4. its impossible to use the alliance raids roulette any more , all you get is this trash crystal tower raids. 110/day over 4 days is 440, just shy of the cap. 1. ago. Roulettes efficiency, measured. ago. That's fine I suppose. Odin isn't in trial roulette (only mentor roulette) so post a PF group for that one and do it unsynced (a level 90 can solo it in less than a minute). Circumstances changed, ended up doing it as 67 Ninja, rolled Castrum, 2. It's my curse, my eternal curse! I want to skip the cutscenes but I. So that's 90/day for each run of Expert Roulette. And yes, I know ARF is still a better option for poetics but that dungeon takes 20-35 minutes depending on how good your random group is. People to this day still ruin the new players experience by rushing the thing, it was way worst when scenes were skippable. I guess if you're leveling other jobs you have plenty options and should know to do the roulette before 60/70/etc. e. If I started levelling an alt job and lets say I hit level 70, but had only done Ridorana and not Orbonne then the item level requirement to queue for the Alliance raid would be 335. e. Because if they add 4 man dungeons to it, it will stall those queing for Castrum and Praetorum until 8 players of the appropriate role spread queue for those 2 dungeons. Normal Raid, 50/60/70/80 and Guildhests are all pretty meh. e fps and custcene loading time. 69. But it still stands that the bulk of side quests will over level your main job, potentially wasting millions in MSQ EXP. EndlessKng • 2 yr. The roulette still gives off good XP and you can just consider it extra XP in your leveling runs. HW relics is basically just a giant poetics grind fest, take your time or you'll probably burn out. Someone demonstrated that it is possible to skip the cutscenes in the MSQ Roulette by disconnecting and reconnecting to FFXIV. Really depends on the raid. I will no longer be avoiding MSQ roulette like the plague - which I had been until now because, frankly, it was boring as all holy. Unless you have enough people exploiting cutscene skipping, I don't think you can do Praetorium in anywhere close to 36 minutes. Trial roulette is shit compared to the other roulettes, normal MSQ trials from HW onwards don't reward anything, and yeah patch trials aren't added to the roulette until the next expansion. The rewards are tuned to make it worth doing even with the cutscenes. It's lowest level and the only set everyone is guaranteed to have unlocked. MSQ and Alliance raid alone will net you nearly a full level and frontlines can easily net you a half a level. These are very worth it for leveling. Main Class. Because it's the lowest level Alliance Raid, it will always have the biggest chance to appear, since the Pool is always determined by whoever has the fewest amount of Raids unlocked in that group of Players. Or they can remove the unskippable cutscenes when everyone in the. Isn't roulette exp in all other cases independent of what duty you get?MSQ Roulette got me like. And all 3 Crystal Tower raids should be added to msq roulette. To unlock expert roulette, you first need to complete the Main Story Quest (MSQ) of Endwalker. There are reasons people skip literally everything they can - mob exp doesn't scale in value very well at all. The classic ones for exp are frontline, leveling, alliance and msq. They made it so that it's worthwhile for older players to run them, otherwise nobody would touch them again after the first time, and eventually new players wouldn't be able to finish ARR, since it would. Let's discuss the concept of the MSQ roulette's bonuses and with that changing does FFXIV owe players another way to get that EXP?💖Follow on Twitch: roulette will be gone, the only reason it was there was the 8 man dungeons and that it took forever. save. big drawback is that it gives you less exp per day though. Forum Top. A better idea would be to make a separate MSQ Roulette, but focused on the Crystal Tower alliance raid series. However, every single time I use the leveling roulette, i ALWAYS get the same low level dungeons - 16-20. I would love to see it broken up (maybe separated into a 50/60. There's nothing "elitist" here. And yes, some roulettes are slower than others. That would fix the problems and stop the complaints about the alliance raid roulette. Reaper Lv 90. Pretty easy to get Poetics now. (3) Reply With Quote. Main. but the rest of the players. By skipping the cutscenes those dungeons can be done in 15 minutes and leave new players behind and angry. The endwalker alliance raid roulette experience. 60k-100k, depends on your in need bonus and the exact dungeon. SacredNym • 2 yr. It’s a hefty to-do list when juggling a full-time job and other adult. Keep Expert roulette. The problem they have is that MSQ roulette is presently the single best source of exp for many people leveling, so removing it would actively gimp casual players’ daily progress by a huge amount, not to mention a large portion of tomestones. You're level 56 NIN is what you wanna run but your highest job is 90. My guess they will make the crystal tower raids 4 person and add them to the MSQ roulette. Good news, you can simply not do the MSQ Roulette. MSQ roulette isn't even the best one in terms of time to exp, Frontline is which takes a 3rd of the time and sometimes queues faster too. Yep, if even one person queues up on their level 50-59 alt job, boom 23 other people get CT. level 1Guildhest roulette gives negligible XP on high levels and not worth it. also if you got d/c-ed during one, you'll skip it once you get back in. I consider the MSQ Roulette exists for those people that want to heckle while helping random people through the mandatory plot. This is an improvement, as I thought that there would be a. How you do it is start queue, wait about 20, go get food, come back and queue has popped after 45 minutes, eat food, still have 30+ minutes of the dungeon left. As of Endwalker, efficiency has also been buffed. Someone else asked for address and I actually gave them one on the off chance I actually got a pizza. It really only fun for melee DPS who get to LB3 at the end. You are affecting other peoples experiences when you do. all Light Party duties vs. This would likely be specific to the two 8-man dungeons in the MSQ roulette, both of which contain quite a few unskippable cutscenes; they were eventually made this way so new players wouldn't be missing out on the plot, as the norm before then was for players to skip all of them and steamroll the place. Tomestones become useless for gearing (if they need accessible poetics gear for alt jobs, they could have. According to an updated Lodestone post a few days ago, Yoshida has said that they made a mistake in adjusting EXP gain during the MSQ. Ussually super mario 3D world or zelda botw. May as well make them soloable with Raha, Doga and Unei as duty support. White Mage Lv 90. I've had Castrum and Porta plenty of times. First, the MSQ roulette. I think they said 6. When the level cap increases. “Online gambling is huge worldwide. But Leveling, Trials, Alliance Raids and MSQ (if you can stand the cutscene time) are amazing daily leveling. With respect, if someone goes into the Mentor Roulette, they should be prepared to be a helpful Mentor and help someone with any content in the game. It will now be a 4-man duty where you only clear up to followed by a then the final fight will be a solo quest battle. Certainly boring, but a decidedly braindead way to get enough tomestone. Set lota to ilvl 90, syrcus to 110, and WoD to 130. That's only the people that forgot to immediately put on their equip again though before they hit commence button. The only real way to make the CT raids fun again is to ilvl cap them. I'll admit that I groan a little when I get ARF/Ala Mhigo/Amaurot/Dead Ends in roulette, even if the tighter sync is better for gameplay. The cutscenes need to be unskippable,. The only people it drove away are the ones who want to speed run it and can't be arsed being in a level 50 dungeon for more than 10. 0 end dungeons for every number. . Edit: Akadaemia is unlocked from Eulmore, not Amaurot. The next batch of FFXIV MSQ tasks on our list falls under the Stormblood Main Scenario Quests. level 2. Rather than grind it out, I was just thinking about running an extra couple praetoriums, in addition to the normal msq roulette, for the duration of the event. Which does not mean much but still. It is ALWAYS worth doing because it is roughly 5-7 Mil EXP for 30-40 minutes wile HoH is 1 mil for 10-20 minutes. The main issue is that unlike the other 2 duties, its still heavily outbalanced in cutscene vs combat (its not the number of cutscenes, its the time spent in them). Required Main Scenario Quest Completion. I do 84% just in case the DPS is bringing it. Paid attention to my exp, here is the breakdown for the two I know. Those instances simply fun for me. Which patch is MSQ roulette getting removed/prae turned into 4-man? I'm still using the roulette everyday for leveling classes to 90. Roulettes in general probably wouldn't have a table, because, according to the in-game description, it is based off of both your level and the level of the duty you get into, so, levelling for example, will get different xp rewards based on what level dungeon you get. All you need to do to get is not queue for MSQ Roulette. MSQ Roulette will never be anything but Prae and Castrum because that's what it was designed for, a story boost with giant. Roulette is not going away. 1m for every 1. On top of that Alliance raid is even better then MS roulette. Hunts and eureka (if there's enough people to. Goblin. 0 Same goes for 50/60/70/80 roulette. If they give the option to skip it if all players have completed it, they'd have to introduce some method of reducing the reward accordingly. If you're looking for XP, run level appropriate dungeons instead. You'd also get 20 tomes from Trial Roulette, assuming you get the level 90 trial each time. That said, it does get boring, and you're not going to learn how to integrate your level 60 skills in synced 50 content. Due to the fact that they're the 2 MSQ necessary 8 man Dungeons that have about 5 years worth of cutscenes in them. Assuming you finished the arr msq you should have the msq roulette. Sniffies is a map-based cruising app for the curious. It has a niche that's destroyed with skippable cutscenes. 2 MSQ. Or, as a really fun change, make alliance roulette min ilvl only. Every time I see this question, I'm reminded of how dumb it is that Level 80 Dungeon roulette isn't progressive like 50/60/70 is. But you can't unlock the the CT raids before you've finnished 2. Alliance Raid is a focal point for this sort of thing because CT is required for MSQ and some people lower their ilvl to get an "easy" (yet still manage to wipe in LotA/WoD) alliance raid from the roulette, so between those two things many people are sick of seeing CT every time they do the roulette. It's because it's the lowest level. Frontline roulette has 4 options that rotate daily. Maggie is a Good Doggo- 1:05. so it's about the same as before exp/hour wise. MSQ Roulette is probably going away; Squads are likely being merged into Trusts some way; The MSQ roulette will probably be abolished and the new 4-man dungeons will be suitable for levelling. As for msq specifically, the most recent I did was in the upper 70s and I got. Unlock Quest Location. For example, I doubt you'll be able to achieve a whole level worth of XP for running Prae anymore, even with the roulette bonus. If you want dungeons, you can queue for the 50\60\70\80 (as a roulette or specifically) to get the relevent tomestones. ago. so if you queue into the roulette as a level 90 job, you have to be wearing level 90 gear to hit the min. That said, it does get boring, and you're not going to learn how to integrate your level 60 skills in synced 50 content. I think this is an absolutely terrible way to treat Sprouts, and a horrible. 5x-2x as long as the typical level 50 dungeon, due to the unskippable cutscenes. After that you could unlock and run a couple different level 50 dungeons and you'll get yourself the 50(60/70/80) roulette. Main Class. Or for the sneak-thief caster or ranged DPS who steals the LB3 at the end. Character was at level 67, and ended up with xp from the run corresponding to 85% of a level. 5. That's less than leveling roulette. The easiest solution is just throwing it in MSQ roulette. For the MSQ roulette, particularly Praetorium, you should expect half a level. so it's about the same as before exp/hour wise. *I don't doubt that like many low level. These dungeons. SuperZay 4 years ago #1. It contributes more XP so they overlevel MSQ even more (assuming they haven't already reached 90, or 70 if on free trial). Lower for Trials and normal raids, which are . So you. Edit: I now realize this is about the MSQ roulette and not leveling roulette. As someone said above, trial roulette is only worth it if you want fast and easy tomestones. This change was never going to "fix" alliance roulette because ilevel cheese was never the main cause of "Crystal Tower Roulette" in the first place. step 6. As you once again descend into the MSQ roulette to earn your irregular tomestones and your cool Ronka Ring, we've come up with a little activity to make your grinding more tolerable: The MSQ Screenshot Contest! Take screenshots of your hijinks as you run Praetorium and Castrum Meridianum and enter them in this contest thread for a chance. Scholar Lv 90. Hey Thancred, do you want to hear the story of the praetorium again? Minfilia! The warrior of light's making fun of me!!I'm so tired of the msq coin toss that I need so away to stay even semi engaged. Sometimes players run ahead and pull aggro off the mobs guarding the searchlights. 3 and/or Patch. The toxicity of the players the OP mentioned is precisely the reason why SE made it impossible to skip cutscenes in the MSQ Roulette in the first place. 10. All the info in one location. Prae does give more xp for the dungeon itself, but. theadverbnoun. I want some gear from the Ivalice raids and also Breach at parawhatever blah blah that one was called. Fisher Lv 90. The alliance raid and normal raid roulete unlocks when you have unlocked 2 or more of them. It's lowest level and the only set everyone is guaranteed to have unlocked. In short, was mocked by a msq roulette "leech" (doing nothing while let the rest do the work but not afk) and who i assumed is their buddy (same server) after calling rhem out, they did that on purpose, said that themselves. It's something I heard from somewhere, and don't have a confirmation for it. Today's Posts; Today's Posts (All) FAQ; Forum Actions. MSQ roulette will be the one that gives you the biggest chunk, but that is the reward for dealing with like you said boring and repetitive content. I do agree that a specific CT roulette would be a good thing, but it's not going to have the high bonus tomes of MSQ roulette. And it's the same regardless whether you get CM or Prae. You aren’t allowed to skip cutscenes on the MSQ roulette because the purpose is to allow new players to get through the end of the ARR MSQ and see the cutscenes without having any pressure to skip them. This would likely be specific to the two 8-man dungeons in the MSQ roulette, both of which contain quite a few unskippable cutscenes; they were eventually made this way so new players wouldn't be missing out on the plot, as the norm before then was for players to skip all of them and steamroll the place. So if you go into EW you might notice that you level slower cause. That way no players are screwed out of anything. More if you also do frontline and get a bit lucky with higher level dungeons in Leveling roulette. This change was never going to "fix" alliance roulette because ilevel cheese was never the main cause of "Crystal Tower Roulette" in the first place. Leveling and trials are the only ones worth it for experience. Tribe quest can gives you some xp too. The queue's tamed down a bit more since then but I have noticed more MSQ Roulette duties as a DPS than I got in the past. Regardless of what they do with the MSQ roulette or people who queue, I don't see any reason to force people to watch 20-30 mins of cutscenes unsynced, the whole point of undersized parties is to choose how we want to play, doing this with newbies who are not interested in watching cutscenes makes it more painful for no reason. Ragnarok. Next, you need to unlock the two additional, non-story level 90 dungeons, Smileton and The Stigma Dreamscape. Wish: If all players already watched the cutscenes, allow skip (by vote - more than 50%). Main Class. And yes, MSQ gives gear rewards, but those rewards are also at-level. Some of these duties are faster. I actually haven't gotten WoD in weeks. Doggo Projectile Vomits All Over Door- 1:32. Not changing this signature until Beyond Good and Evil 2 is in my hand. I've done MSQ roulette as DNC, and that huge burst of damage from Standard Step always tears a few mobs loose on the go. I reported them but it still left a really bad taste for me. Circumstances changed, ended up doing it as 67 Ninja, rolled Castrum, 2. 1. If you're level 55, and you get Sastasha which is a level 16 dungeon, you get a massive bonus because the dungeon itself gives you little exp. 8 million at lvl 80. Otherwise, your roulette will mainly grant you currencies (gc seals or tomes) which is more or less useful too, but you certainly don't need them if you level only 1 classI did 2 runs of Praet with MSQ roulette as healer and yesterday's was 22 minutes with an insta-queue, and today's was 19 minutes (with a 5 minute queue time adding to 24 minutes). Unsure if you need 8 man raids normals. It's the moogle tomestone event currently and Prae offers the most per run. The Gilgamesh one should pop sooner or later if you queue during peak hours. There might be a few parts where you might need a bump from a roulette or something to make a level threshold. they have long cutscene in the middle. Did you know, there exists an 8ppl Guildhest. Hello, I was curious why I can no longer skip cut scenes in the MSQ roulette. It can. Originally Posted by Jeeqbit. 233 comments. They could easily whip up some easy hests that teach players stack markers, earthshakers, acceleration bombs, etc, using existing assets. The former will take more MSQ to unlock though, since it's only the 2 most recent MSQ dungeons. Look at the rewards they give and decide what you need. When leveling DPS, I take the 10 minute queue times over running. It exists specifically for those two weird dungeons that are now being de-weirded. Just finished Prae doing this; as a level 65 MNK, the bonus at the end was 3,279,441exp - which makes the mob exp (averaging ~14-1800 or so each) really weak. ago. Rharyx211 1 year ago #27. Cause you seem like the type that wouldn't be happy till logging in just gave you like 10 mil exp. Main Class. However you will unlock a ton of level 50 dungeons, raids and trials; and new roulette types when you finish the Realm Reborn MSQ. Would also like the two msq stories to become Trusts where you lead your allies into the fight, and turn the boss fights of Prae into a mini raid/trial series, dividing the Nero, Gauis, Ultima Weapon, and Lahabrea fights into 4 separate instances that could be part of the standard Raid/Trial Roulette (or a new MSQ raid/trial roulette that could. Scholar Lv 90. If you actually sit through the whole roulette, you would notice the cut scenes now take longer then the actual fighting (ie you are watching. I absolutely loathe Porta Decumana. The 50/60/70/80 Dungeons Roulette now contains MANY dungeons over a large range of levels, and the rewards seem lackluster. However, MSQ roulette is the single highest xp/hr content in the game, and arguably the best source of poetics as well. IF (and that's a BIG if) you have the patience for it, MSQ roulette gives 300 poetics daily. also if you got d/c-ed during one, you'll skip it once you get back in. . Another alternative? Start a new class, and queue for PVP. There are SO many ways to get the tomestones, that MSQ roulette is like the last of them. I'm not sure how it is on other data centers, but on Crystal, alliance raid roulette has just become Crystal Tower roulette. Y'ser Tovaras. But both of these give out 100 more if there are new people running it. ago. Ok, just wish they made MSQ required quests part of the MSQ. Unfair comparison. CryptoOur FF14 Endwalker guide explains where to find and unlock these dungeons. 110/day over 4 days is 440, just shy. Someone demonstrated that it is possible to skip the cutscenes in the MSQ Roulette by disconnecting and reconnecting to FFXIV. It's required. This is important because a significant amount of ARR’s climax is told through the mid-dungeon cutscenes and it’s not reasonably possible. However, when you get around to levelling alt jobs, roulettes will be very handy. At the moment you need 15 crystal tower tokens per resistance weapon, but only 18 for the Mhiach and Ivalice ones, which pushes people to do crystal tower. The MSQ rou will skip through the cutscenes, not restart them. If you don't want to watch the MSQ cutscenes more than you want the rewards, you can always not choose to queue up. And to have the skip button means to forego the rewards of the roulette. You still need 1 run to level up, nothing has changed just the numbers are smoller. MSQ roulette is only the final two dungeons of ARR. HLRoulette (Hullbreaker Isle) - A bonus of 276,480 experience points and 2,220 gil has been awarded for using the duty roulette. Duty Roulette:MSQ needs to be addressed. Simply playing through the Main Scenario Quest will unlock the majority of the trials and dungeons featured in the leveling roulette. Need to be level 61 to enter and have completed the MSQ 'Tide Goes In and. Liveletter said after the update MSQ roulette will simply no longer be its own thing. On average, a single Main Story roulette run will net you 43. The intent of daily duty roulettes is to help facilitate. Do at least leveling roulette every day too. If someone starts with low hp, that means they took off gear to cheese the ilvl requirement for the roulette. 3 we actually visit the CT or Graha on the Source in their post-Raid state. Alliance raid roulette is unlocked by having at least 2 alliance raids unlocked. It was that or rework both dungeons. Upon reaching a certain threshold, players advance by one level. Main Class. Sorry to sound a bit cheeky but really MSQ roulette is basically just show up and you get stupid amounts of exp. Running the MSQ dungeons synced from roulette and running them synced during NG+ aren’t any different except that you get to see the cutscenes that happen after the dungeon in the latter. If you get The Aery which is a level 55 dungeon, the bonus. MSQ roulette is a great way to get some extra EXP in FF14. Furthermore, older Leveling duties typically provide more EXP per run due to them being much more generous with roulette bonuses. Preferably the second tank needs to stun at around 60-64%. Well, please explain it because I was under the impression it would randomly select a dungeon, trial or MSQ for us to participate in, hence the name roulette. Copperbell (Ambien of dungeons) almost put me to sleep the other day. I still do the boss fights, mind you. Universally, we agree that they are not fun and feel like. 47% of your EXP bar. the cutscenes are tied to your system performance, i. My guess they will make the crystal tower raids 4 person and add them to the MSQ roulette. 1 Dustin Bailey Published: Mar 5, 2022 Final Fantasy. usagizero • 3 yr. As you level up, the amount of exp you get in the roulette lessons. PVP Frontlines is i think 50 a match, each matches 10-20 mins, say Average 15mins thats 200 an Hour. Hell if you get fast runs in new dungeons it probably isn't that efficient time wise anyway, I'd only ever really queue for it as dps. Running just the Lv80 dungeons even without the roulette bonus is faster tomes. Do 50/60, MSQ, and Alliance for 500 plus whatever the duties themselves give. As always, roulettes are a great source of experience relative to the time investment. I noticed an awful trend in MSQ Roulette now.